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Along with this remarkable photo comes a remarkable story. According to our source, Houdini's body arrived at the building at 9AM on November 4 in his glass-topped bronze "show coffin." But the Elks purchased another coffin, a traditional wooden coffin, and placed the bronze coffin inside of that for the viewing. Houdini was then given last rites by two Rabbis, and also received traditional Masonic Rites.
Some 2000 people then filed past the open casket (which gave a view of the glass-topped casket inside). After the last person left the building, the Elks removed the bronze coffin and carried it to the front door of the lodge room. There they handed it over to the pallbearers who carried it down the stairs, through the lobby, and out the front door to the waiting hearse. What's interesting is our source says the Elks placed flowers over the top of the casket to hide the glass top and obscure any view of the body inside. Indeed, in all the film footage of Houdini's casket being transported to Machpelah, the entire top is covered with flowers or foliage of some kind.
But the story doesn't end there. The Elks kept the wooden casket they had used that day, and after a few months in storage, they put it on display in the lobby roped off with a portrait of Houdini. As NY #1 was a private clubhouse, it was only ever seen by members. The Elks would also use the coffin during initiation ceremonies. The candidate/initiated would be blindfolded, placed inside Houdini's coffin, and carried up the stairs into the lodge room while a pipe organ played a funeral march. There it would be opened and the candidate asked if he wished to continue. (Our source emphasizes that the Elks do not do these kinds of initiations today.)
After the Elks lost the building in 1934, Houdini's coffin was moved to a few different locations, before settling at the Elks Temple in North Tonawanda, N.Y. There it was kept, and possibly displayed, until the building burned down in 2010-11.
Wild stuff, eh?
Now, I can't personally vouch for this photo's authenticity. All I can do is trust our source and share what he shared with me. But the photo is definitely the inside of NY #1, and was identified as Houdini's funeral by high ranking Elks in a position to know. The details of the funeral where taken from actual Elk meeting minutes. Also, our source sends over this photo of Houdini's gold Elks Club membership card case. Just another secret Houdini Elks artifact that has remained unseen...until now.
Postscript: Because I expect this will prompt some discussion in our Comments, below are the two other photographs said to be Houdini in death. One comes from a morticians trade magazine and is captioned as being Houdini at the West End Funeral Chapel (this photo also appears in The Secret Life of Houdini). The other is a personal photo from the collection of Jon Oliver. On it Bess has written: "This is the last photo of Houdini."
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UPDATE: You can see the uncovered casket as it was lowered into the ground HERE. There's also a reference to this Elks Card Case in a letter from Kit Clarke to Houdini dated May 14, 1918. Clarke writes: "That was very nice of the Elks to present you with a diamond studded case for your card."
Was he a member of the elks or did they present him with it as a gift? Look at the picture to the left I don't think it looks like him the nose is to big he had a small nose.
ReplyDeleteHoudini was an Elk. He became one in 1912.
DeleteThe pic on left...yeah, big nose. But I'm not sure we can really judge features on that photo. Photos play tricks. What I find strange about that photo is it says it's at the West End Funeral Chapel. Is there any other record of HH lying in state before the Elks Lodge on Nov 4?
Yes,
DeleteJohn he was initiated for sure.
You don't get to walk into being a member in the Elks or given a membership. You have to be initiated. That's why he like the lodge room at 43rd street location so much that's why he wrote a letter and put it in the NY Elks #1 safe. Only to be opened if he died. That's what I have been told. He took that letter to the lodge secretary personally with Bess and his co-worker that helped him. Letter said when he died, he wanted his funeral inside the big lodge room inside the Elks Lodge. They didn't put that in the History Channel 2 night show. Just as well I hope you know he was a NY Mason in St. Cecilia's Masonic Lodge #1.
Don't believe call the Masonic Grand Lodge of New York. They will tell you the same thing. His picture hangs out side the lodge he belong to in the Masons.
If your in New York go take the tour of the Masonic Grand Lodge of New York it's free & fun. Good tour to and you will see that the Masons are not what conspirators say! The tour guides are all Masons and their like my Grand Dad funny and charming...
So Houdini was a real mason and a Elk as well.
When his funeral happened the Elks & Masons all gathered at his funeral inside New York Elks Lodge #1.
The Elks lodge on 43rd was torn down wrongfully. But, the Masons club house still stands today.
They picked a sight that wasnt near 42nd & Times Square back in the 70's & 80's holly hell area back then...
Hope that answers your question on Houdini's membership.
Now, my question why wasnt the TV cameras allowed to go into the lodge room on the top floor balcony and shoot Houdini's funeral?
Instead of making them wait outside to shoot his coffin coming out of the New York Elks Lodge #1!
Or does the family estate have more pictures or film that was shot inside... What's up with that???
These were film cameras that needed a lot of light and shooting inside would have required beaming bright lights onto the casket and mourners. I don't think anyone would want that. It also it could be the Masons didn't alow news cameras inside the lodge.
DeleteWell the Elks Lodge Room was heavily fortified with huge amount of lighting in the lodge room.
DeleteThis wouldn't of been a problem.
Don't forget this is not a Masonic Home! This was the Elks invited the St. Cecilia's Masonic Lodge #1 to do a Masonic rest along side the Elks rest and Jewish interment.
Don't forget these rest burial ceremonies are meant for the public. They are not private ritualized floor work by the Elks or Masons. Which the 2 org's. are very similar in nature in more ways then one!
I feel it was Bess who kept the cameras and media out of the barn I'm sure of it...
Not sure which photo to the left you mean that does not look like him??
ReplyDeleteAmazing stuff, which deserves a lot more research. Thanks for this as always. It is amazing how much stuff about Houdini is surfacing so many years after his death. People in those days did not dig so deep and accepted many things as fact, that we now have questions about.
Dick Brookz and Dorothy Dietrich
The Houdini Museum
So true.
DeleteSuperb! Once again, you've outdone yourself John!
ReplyDeleteThanks Dean.
DeleteSome things dont make sense. When you see the pallvearers carring the coffin with all the flowers on top if you look at its sides it appears to be a ....coffin...NOT the glass covered box you see him laying in (dead or alive) in the other photo. The box with the glass lid looks like a bix with a glass lid NOT acoffin. I agree with John that the other know photo of Houdini laying in state is not him....the coffin that pr rson is in does not have a glass lid. Perry.
ReplyDeleteAgree. Some of these things seem to contradict each other. It's a puzzle with some possible false pieces.
DeleteI think we have established that in the photo from Jon Oliver, Houdini is NOT DEAD. He is just in Worcester. All the records of the construction of Houdini's coffins still exist and they make it clear that the coffin he is in in the Worcester outdoor stunt -- which my grandfather witnessed -- is a COFFIN LINER with a GLASS TOP. John published quite a lot about this coffin not being completed in time for the test in the Worcester YMCA pool. This coffin had it's own packing case and there are photos of the case carrying the body home. Now, the question is -- and maybe it's been answered -- is that glass topped coffin liner still inside the casket? And has Houdini escaped from it? (as he did when it was buried under sand in a large glass box onstage in Worcester). A lot of guys have contributed to this subject, thanks to Mark Russell and the rest. I've got a good chapter on the whole subject of Houdini and coffins in Houdini--the Key, and I think it opened some of the doors that have produced this new material. The coffin liner that Houdini may still be in has a flat top. Funeral homes have a kind of rounded dome that fits on an open casket. Was the coffin that arrived too late for the YMCA test the coffin in the onstage escape? Was it the coffin in the outdoor stunt? Is that coffin liner inside the casket that is buried in Macpelah Cemetery? I have spent my whole life thinking that my grandfather saw Houdini do an outdoor straight jacket, and, thanks to this blog, I know now that he saw Houdini in a coffin liner with a glass top outside a furniture store.
ReplyDeleteThanks Patrick. Great info. Your grandfather saw Houdini? How did I not know this? Cool!
DeleteNot sure we ever fully determined that the glass top coffin pic was of a live Houdini at the department store test. It's a good theory. But the possibility that it's the dead Houdini haunts me, especially because of what Bessie wrote on the photo.
The thing that throws me about that pic is what appears to be thick dark hair on the arms up to the wrists. Houdini didn't have hairy arms like that. But, again, could be a trick of the photo.
But if Houdini is being carried from the elks lodge inside of an actual coffin there would have been no need to cover it's top with flowers to prevent Houdinis body from being seen as this story suggests. I would think there would have been no need to remove Houdinis body from the liner so my assumption would be he Is still encased within the liner inside of the coffin.
ReplyDeleteThe flowers on top part of this story blew my mind because I too assumed this was a normal casket. Like I said above, this is all a puzzle. This story doesn't provide us with answers, just more puzzle pieces. But fun to get more pieces. :)
DeleteNot to be morbid but.......Houdini was buried with a packet of letters from his mother as a pillow. Would it not be a huge historical event if these letters could be obtained and photocopied? I would think so much could be learned. There was a fake attempt to dig up Houdini 4-5 years ago but what would it take to make this really happen with the sole purpose of Gaining access to those letters?
ReplyDeleteOkay, here's the thing about that. The letters that made up his pillow were, I'm assuming, the originals (in German). Houdini had all his mother's letters transcribed into English and made into a book that he could read more easily. Forget the packet under his head, let's find that book! It would indeed rewrite Houdini history. I think about this everyday. :)
DeleteAs I said the other day when you emailed me, I just don't think the image of Houdini lying in state at the Elk's is him. The various caskets don't match-up and seems-like there's an extra casket or two in this story that probably are throwing this off. As for the bronze casket being placed inside of a regular casket, good luck with that. It sounds-like the first appearance of the Gozinta Box. :)
ReplyDeleteAs for the flowers on the casket, that was in vogue back then. Take a look at Valentino's send off a year earlier. In some ways, Valentino and Houdini were very similar at the end of their lives.
Good points, Kevin. Especially about Valentino's funeral. Several similarities between these two famous funerals which happened only a few months apart. No riots for Houdini thought.
DeleteOne thing this photo has going for it is it's definitely the inside of New York Lodge #1 and it's definitely a funeral. If we knew how many funerals were held there, that would give us our odds on this being Houdini.
As far as caskets not matching…well, the story from our source is the casket used that day was one the Elks bought themselves and it never left the building. But that's also a convenient explanation of why it doesn't match. Yep, all this has crossed my mind.
Let's look at that Elk's photo and the pallbearer's shot for any clues that could help us. Some of the people waiting in line at the Elk's Club are wearing winter overcoats. This day is supposed to be November the 4th. That would have been a cold day in N.Y.C.
ReplyDeleteIn the next photo of the coffin leaving the Elks Club, I see four cops around on the street outside. A cop at the viewing inside the building, four cops outside the Elks Club. Whoever is inside that coffin in the Elks building, he or she must have been somebody important.
I'm also trying to see if the flowers at the viewing match those on top of the coffin in the next photo. Hard to tell. There might be a long ribbon on the coffin that could match the one near the coffin inside the Elks. I'm also trying to match anyone in that line to anybody in the crowd in the next photo. Admittedly, this is close to impossible, but worth a try.
I also see a police officer standing close to the line.
Woops, the last sentence slipped past me. That police officer in line was the one already mentioned. Why is there a cop at the viewing?
ReplyDeleteGood detective work. There certainly is a police offer there (I didn't see him before) and his uniform matches the ones we see outside. The presence of a police officer suggests that this is a public figure. With the ruckus at Valentino's funeral only a few months before, maybe that's why we see a police presence here.
DeleteThe NYPD was there for crowd control and some cops were members of the New York Elks Lodge #1 & or the NY Masons! It couldn't hurt to have law enforcement around just in case something happened not planned!!!
DeleteIf you’d like a new and better photo of the casket in the NY Elks lodge #1? Get in touch with me! I found a better quality photo!
DeleteI got your original text and the photo. Thank you! I responded to that text, to your email, and to your voice message. Sorry if you've somehow not received these. But thank you again!
DeleteWould Bess and Harden would be buy the casket?
ReplyDeleteDoubtful. This was a public viewing with thousands of people passing through. Could have taken hours. Certainly Bess wouldn't have been able to handle it. She was a wreck. We see her collapse in the funeral footage.
DeleteBTW, I believe Marie Blood rode in the limo with Bess. I seem to recall her talking about that.
On page 248 of Milbourne Christopher's Houdini: The Untold Story it reads: " Someone at the Elks Club remembered that Houdini had left a sealed envelope, to be opened only after his death, in their safe ten years before. It was opened. The master showman was still in charge. The letter gave specific instructions for his funeral. The services were to be conducted in the vast Elks Lodge ballroom on West 43rd Street, just off Broadway. Two thousand people jammed into the Elks for the two-hour ritual. Even at the end Houdini drew a standing-room only audience."
ReplyDeleteYou know, there's a reference in either Kalush or Silverman to the braze casket lid being "screwed on" at the cemetery. What is that about exactly?
ReplyDeleteI know the motives were dubious, but I'm kinda sorry the exhumation didn't happen back in 2007, if for no other reason that it would have answered all these questions about exactly what he was buried in. Regular coffin? Trick coffin in regular coffin? Glass top? Would have been fascinating.
Can you imagine a DNA sample?
DeleteCould put to rest the Gilmore rumor of Houdini having a child.
And at least one more I can think of.
Although it might be possible to use DNA from other descendants of the Weiss family.
Dick Brookz and Dorothy Dietrich
The Houdini Museum
The Only Building in the World Dedicated to Houdini
There really is no evidence that Houdini was buried in his coffin liner....is there? We know his body was shipped back to NY in it but there is no clear info that his body was within that liner afterward. You would think the funeral home would just use a normal casket unless the family wanted something else.
ReplyDeleteThe following is an excerpt from http://www.detroit1701.org/Hamilton%20Funeral%20Home.html#.U4Prs_ldVcg
DeleteHis body was taken to the W. R. Hamilton and Company Funeral Home at 3975 Cass. There was no public viewing of his body. Just a couple of weeks earlier, Weiss had order a massive new coffin for use on the stage. He expressed a desire to be buried in this prop. The lining for the coffin was sewed in Detroit the day of his final performance. Apparently, the Hamilton Funeral Home placed his body in the coffin, but then later removed it. There was no public viewing of his corpse and the coffin remained in Detroit. On Monday evening November 1, 1926, the New York Central Railroad added a special car to their Detroiter train to carry Houdini's remains back to his home town. Only his wife and his brothers accompanied his bier.
If the above is true, big question mark, then does that imply that the coffin (i.e., magic prop or casket liner) remained in Detroit and that a brier (a movable frame) was used to transfer Houdini’s corpse?
Good stuff. Thanks Joe.
DeleteWe do have a photo of Houdini's casket being unladed at the train station. The container doesn't seem to match anything we see here. It may just be some kind of railroad shipping container? It's certainly not a coffin.
You can see that pic in this excellent post by Dean Carnegie:
Tracking the Body of Houdini
Coffin liners were intended to protect the body even as the coffin developed leaks. It would go inside the casket. Look at the photo of it and the coffin being borne by the assistants. It's not a Gozinta Box. It looks like a fit. I would swear I read somewhere he was still in that liner.
ReplyDeleteMelville Cane wrote in his poem "Houdini" wrote:"The hearse was framed in glass, Was screwed with screws of brass, And only light could pass." I don't remember reading about screws in the coffin, but, wasn't the lid of the glass topped coffin liner fastened down with screws or bolts?
I was doing a little reading up on glass caskets, etc., and in some cases bodies were sealed in glass containers within caskets when it was an open casket funeral. This is because embalming wasn't quite what it is today and these bodies could be pretty ripe.
DeleteThe lid of the liner screwed shut. I think its common language to say that a coffin lid was screwed shut even if its not. Generally there is a lever locking mechanism on a coffin lid. I say lets get an ok from Hardeens great grandson and exhume Houdini to answer all of these questions. Perry.
ReplyDeleteI'm all for it! But unlike last time, let's be honest about the reason: We're ghouls!
DeleteOther Elks connection:
ReplyDeleteAt the unveiling of the monument at Machpelah Cemetery in 1927, one of the speakers was William T. Phillips of Elks Lodge No. 1.
Bill Mullins
Interesting. Thanks Bill.
DeleteHello Brother Mullins,
DeleteYes, Willam T. Phillips was the secretary of the NY Elks lodge #1.
I have their circulars book that was 1934-35 James Garret Wallace PER's book of circular notes.
The year they lost their grand old building on 108 west 43rd street.
Email some time I have a good bit of their history to share with you my brother Elk!
jmcdrums@aol.com
In the letter written by Houdini to magician James S. Harto during the week of Sept 27 when he was performing in Worchester, it mentions “a coffin with a glass front” lowered into a vault which has a glass, so he can be seen all of the time until the sand completely covers everything. This may have been the casket that arrived at noon on Sept 28th, two hours after the YMCA test.
ReplyDeleteI believe the YMCA test was a coffin with “a glass top”. So we have a coffin with a glass top (YMCA test) and one with a glass front (Buried Alive Stage Prop).
I believe he used his new glass top casket first for the Summerfield department store test, and said then it was the casket he'd be buried in. Remember THIS POST.
DeleteCorrection: The YMCA test was not a coffin with a glass top. The one with the glass top arrived two hours late, which still seems to be different than the coffin with a glass front used for the Buried Alive Stage.
ReplyDeleteWhy are their not more photos of the actual Houdini funeral when it was going on.
ReplyDeleteWhy bring up NYPD at the New York Elks Lodge during the funeral. Large groups of people could always use a couple of good cops to keep it all calm!
Why care about coffins?
Their tops and which one he was in?
Look Houdini was a Elk & a Mason.
He was initiated at the 43rd street NYC Elks Lodge#1 where he also had his funeral in the same Elks Lodge Room. Not the so called ballroom.
The Lodge room in NY#1 was renamed when the Diplomat Hotel group took over operating the building.
The Diplomat called the huge purposely built Elks Lodge room it's "Crystal Ballroom'.
To heck with crying about his death or his coffin he was buried in.
I ask what was it like to initiate Houdini?
What was it like to see him go through the initiation?
Ah, as well what was it like to have a drink with Houdini in the Elks Lodge billiard of NY#1?
These are the questions you guys should be asking about instead of coffins and coffin use, really???
I also speculate on Houdini if he like being initiated into the NYC Lodge of Elks!
Did he like the Elks initiation better or being initiated into the 1st degree of Freemasonry?
Which one he liked better?
As well how did Harry become to know about the Masons and NY Elks Lodge. What was Houdini's connection to both great and old fraternal orders? Masonry & Elkdom
What a country........
All great questions, Jason. Wish we had the answers.
DeleteThere have been tons of important movers & shakers in the NY Elks Lodge as members or addressed the big NYC Elks Lodge.
ReplyDeleteNames like Gen. Pershing addressing the NY Elks Lodge or past New York Goverment officials you name it!
In all I wish I had a time travel machine. I would love to go back and see Houdini's funeral or even better his Elks initiation.
That had to be a packed lodge room and very intense.
My opinion any how!
I did a bit of research. If indeed Houdini was buried within a air tight coffin the whole idea of an exhumation is a very bad idea. Nothing can evaporate so what one will find is mainly a slushy mess.
ReplyDeleteIn the 1960’s, I had to pleasure of meeting Arthur B. Rothschild, the son of the founder of the West End Funeral Chapel. I knew Arthur and worked with him and the last time I saw him was around November of 1978. The “casket” in which Houdini was transported in to New York City, was actually a copper or bronze liner. This is something that could be placed inside a regular casket, then sealed to offer additional protection to a body. Houdini used this for some of his under water stunts. The actual casket that Houdini was buried in was a cast bronze casket manufactured by the Boyertown Casket Company. However, the Elks Club, where Houdini’s funeral service took place, preferred that a wooden casket be displayed (possibly because some of the members were Jewish and felt a metal casket, especially a cast bronze, was not in keeping with Jewish tradition.) After the funeral service, the cast bronze casket was taken out of the wooden “outer” casket, carried to the hearse and then transported to Machpelah cemetery. This is the way Arthur B. Rothschild told it to me.
ReplyDeleteSince he was Jewish and the son of a Rabbi, being buried in a Jewish cemetery, didn't he have a Jewish funeral?
ReplyDeleteNot sure what constitutes a Jewish funeral. As I wrote above, he was given last rites by two Rabbis. But he also received traditional Masonic Rites. So it sounds like a mix of traditions. Houdini himself was not orthodox.
DeleteAs well as an Elks lodge of sorrow ritual as well as his Masonic last rites. If you look at the funeral casket coming out of NY#1 you can see his white Masonic apron on top! All of this was done in the huge 3 story lodge room of the New York Elks Lodge #1on west 43rd street.
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